Comments on: New study predicts climate change will make pesticides more lethal to fish http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/ A complete guide for anyone interested in leading an organic lifestyle Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:18:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Satyabroto Banerji http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2896 Satyabroto Banerji Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:27:17 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2896 No pesticide can be described as safe, but Endosulfan can and should be used safely and judiciously, lascivious references to urination notwithstanding. No pesticide can be described as safe, but Endosulfan can and should be used safely and judiciously, lascivious references to urination notwithstanding.

]]> By: mary http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2883 mary Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:59:51 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2883 It is a pissing contest and NO IT IS NOT SAFE It is a pissing contest and NO IT IS NOT SAFE

]]> By: Kilter http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2440 Kilter Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:15:34 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2440 So what was the upshot of this - is endosulfan okay to use or not? If it's not, what kind of fruit/veg is it sprayed on? So what was the upshot of this – is endosulfan okay to use or not?

If it’s not, what kind of fruit/veg is it sprayed on?

]]> By: Dr. Satyabroto Banerji http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2248 Dr. Satyabroto Banerji Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:50:27 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2248 The U.S. companies are stronger in organo-phosphates and carbamates, as well as important herbicide groups. None of them, to my knowledge have gained from pesticide bans, as have European Union and Swiss companies. The U.S. companies are stronger in organo-phosphates and carbamates, as well as important herbicide groups. None of them, to my knowledge have gained from pesticide bans, as have European Union and Swiss companies.

]]> By: Ed Kloppens http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2247 Ed Kloppens Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:02:01 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2247 Most of the agrochem companies come from the good old U.S.A. Most of the agrochem companies come from the good old U.S.A.

]]> By: Dr. Satyabroto Banerji http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2246 Dr. Satyabroto Banerji Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:49:26 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2246 I agree with you. Corporate greed of European pesticide companies has persuaded Brussels to replace Endosulfan with expensive neonicotinoids. Countries with sub-tropical farms can and have found ways to use Endosulfan safely, effectively, and economically. I agree with you. Corporate greed of European pesticide companies has persuaded Brussels to replace Endosulfan with expensive neonicotinoids. Countries with sub-tropical farms can and have found ways to use Endosulfan safely, effectively, and economically.

]]> By: Andre http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2245 Andre Sat, 31 May 2008 20:48:13 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2245 Endosulfan - It has been banned in the European Union why? and why is it not banned in the US and elsewhere? Let me tell you why it is; greed. Corporate greed. Endosulfan – It has been banned in the European Union

why? and why is it not banned in the US and elsewhere? Let me tell you why it is; greed. Corporate greed.

]]> By: Dr. Satyabroto Banerji http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2244 Dr. Satyabroto Banerji Sat, 31 May 2008 13:47:45 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2244 Thank you for your kind response. I also have worked extensively in Rajasthan, including being responsible for aerial spraying of Endosulfan in Ganganagar. Endosulfan successful use should be defined as following label instructions, and using IPM technology to protect crop yields without harming people and the environment. Thank you for your kind response.

I also have worked extensively in Rajasthan, including being responsible for aerial spraying of Endosulfan in Ganganagar.

Endosulfan successful use should be defined as following label instructions, and using IPM technology to protect crop yields without harming people and the environment.

]]> By: Ian Hinchincliffe http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2242 Ian Hinchincliffe Sat, 31 May 2008 05:08:49 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2242 Dr Banerji - You raise some interesting points. To an extent I agree with you regarding prohibitive legislation being imposed, or for that matter driven, by Western countries who may or may not be familiar with India's circumstances. However, I don't think that's likely to happen. With respect to your comments regarding "successful" use of Endosulfan in China and India, our views diverge. While I guess it all depends on what you classify "successful" use of Endosulfan to be, there are more people in China and India suffering ill health as a result of being exposed to dangerous pesticides (Endosulfan included) than live in Australia. Having undertaken three volunteer medical missions to Rajasthan throughout my career I have had the misfortune of seeing first hand the impact pesticides can have on the human body. How do you define "successful" use? I suspect your comment regarding Endosulfan being "economical" fails to take into account the downstream collateral damage associated with the insecticide's use. Any economic model that failed to capture the broader (social and economic) costs arising from Endosulfan use would appear one-dimensional and ultimately flawed in its design. Dr Banerji – You raise some interesting points. To an extent I agree with you regarding prohibitive legislation being imposed, or for that matter driven, by Western countries who may or may not be familiar with India’s circumstances. However, I don’t think that’s likely to happen.

With respect to your comments regarding “successful” use of Endosulfan in China and India, our views diverge. While I guess it all depends on what you classify “successful” use of Endosulfan to be, there are more people in China and India suffering ill health as a result of being exposed to dangerous pesticides (Endosulfan included) than live in Australia. Having undertaken three volunteer medical missions to Rajasthan throughout my career I have had the misfortune of seeing first hand the impact pesticides can have on the human body. How do you define “successful” use?

I suspect your comment regarding Endosulfan being “economical” fails to take into account the downstream collateral damage associated with the insecticide’s use. Any economic model that failed to capture the broader (social and economic) costs arising from Endosulfan use would appear one-dimensional and ultimately flawed in its design.

]]> By: Dr. Satyabroto Banerji http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2237 Dr. Satyabroto Banerji Fri, 30 May 2008 12:36:42 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2237 Endosulfan is safe for people and the environment as long as the NOEL is respected. It is the only pesticide in use with a tolerant strain of egg parasite. It is therefore factually incorrect to label it has antiquated. The agronomy of BRIC countries and the European Union is so different that bans in one region should not reflect in another. Alcohol and beef are banned in parts of India. We do not insist that Brussels must copy us. Australia maintains allegiance to the British Monarch: the rest of the world does not have to follow. India and China should be permitted, at any rate, to follow independent regulations. The numbers of people who have successfully used Endosulfan in these countries, exceeds by far, your entire population. Endosulfan is useful and economical. It deserves to be used and treated with care. Endosulfan is safe for people and the environment as long as the NOEL is respected. It is the only pesticide in use with a tolerant strain of egg parasite. It is therefore factually incorrect to label it has antiquated. The agronomy of BRIC countries and the European Union is so different that bans in one region should not reflect in another. Alcohol and beef are banned in parts of India. We do not insist that Brussels must copy us. Australia maintains allegiance to the British Monarch: the rest of the world does not have to follow. India and China should be permitted, at any rate, to follow independent regulations. The numbers of people who have successfully used Endosulfan in these countries, exceeds by far, your entire population. Endosulfan is useful and economical. It deserves to be used and treated with care.

]]> By: Hariss K http://www.organicguide.com/blog/news/new-study-predicts-climate-change-will-make-pesticides-more-lethal-to-fish/comment-page-1/#comment-2236 Hariss K Fri, 30 May 2008 10:34:00 +0000 http://www.organicguide.com/?p=1439#comment-2236 Thanks - but scary! Isn't it time we woke up to what chemical companies are doing to people health. Thanks – but scary! Isn’t it time we woke up to what chemical companies are doing to people health.

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